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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
谁是影子？不过是为了正义形象虚构的分身。暗夜里，身与影合而为一，并无分别。
政治是需要有一定的理想主义，但也总得有人干脏活。
按照电影中的主题，我们能不能用以牙还牙，以眼还眼的招数去还击？如果用了同样的方法，那么是否背离了自己的初衷？这是一个很让人值得深思的问题。
靠演技撑的一部较为平庸之作，重点为李善均的“造王者”角色，但选举较量讲得过于浅薄了，薛景求的角色原型金大中的背景也没有充分利用，故事不丰满，氛围营造也差点意思。
3.5分。一对亦师亦友的政坛新秀，目标一致但价值观截然相反，最后难免分道扬镳；政治家和政客这两个概念的巨大区别；韩国人真敢拍：把政治斗争的那种黑暗、你死我活都赤裸裸的展露出来了。
开篇的头一句台词是，你知道在这世上最令人生气的是什么吗？那便是被自己信任的人背叛。两位男主一个是影子另一个是光，分别象征着狗血的现实和完美的理想。明明相互依存却又永远处在对立面，无法完成包容和接纳，反而只能背负互相背叛的宿命，永不和解。
精彩的，也是严肃的与认真的。政治惊悚片的外壳之下有创作者的尖锐，双男主绝佳的演技让观众为人物的命运无比唏嘘。
故事完整而紧凑，导演的运镜非常讲究，光线明暗教科书级别的调度。双男主的对手戏拳拳到肉，薛景求内敛而又有力的表演，李善均也并不逊色，韩国的政治片真是世界顶级水平。
读书才是改变一个人，改变其他人的更好的途径
剧本不行，演员演技在线。。。不要想着穿白衬衫玩泥巴还一身干净的。。。
双男主哪是什么友谊，太强大了就会拥有很多目的为利用的“友谊”，只要你一直被需要，假象就不会被打破。
是因为拿了影帝和男配所以打算瞅瞅，没有最后二十分钟的话是三星，因为我喜欢爆炸之后的反转。比起薛景求我更喜欢李善均的表演，两人监狱出来那段很有意思，飙戏很爽。我存的这版字幕真的太简翻了，纯靠我多年经验艰难个人理解了一波。
虽然太脸谱，虽然过度维护金大中，虽然主旋律，虽然爽文，虽然开头鸡蛋寓言结尾17年后重逢都应该去掉，但是这里有很强的表达:“是否能够用卑劣的手段实现崇高的目的”。另外总是感觉得到全片都在说“zz是永远肮脏的，请远离zz”。
谁是影子？不过是为了正义形象虚构的分身。暗夜里，身与影合而为一，并无分别。
以及，黑色小品我好爱。
竟然很好看！不是纯政治让人看不懂，男主永远没等到的梦想看得让人唏嘘
什么时候我们中国能拍这样的电影、能走上这样的道路
前一小时我没看懂，后一小时从“光线越强阴影就越暗”开始到结尾都非常精彩。结尾鸡蛋的隐喻看完解读恍然大悟，太有意思了。
韩式工业化政治商业片，剧情流畅，水准在线，但是缺点也同样一目了然。徐昌大的角色形象无疑是成立的，但是对于他所坚持的手段作风，金云范和他的选举团队的反应却是前后不一的，知根知底却在关键时刻反对“演戏”，那不是虚伪即是虚假了。这种逻辑上的矛盾问题，暴露出的是剧本的欠缺打磨，铺垫不够，顺拐来凑，也直接损害了片尾那一番交心谈话的力量。
为了正义，
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