The story appears simple on the surface, but is revealed, especially after multiple viewings, as more multi-layered and textured than Cassavetes at his best. Ostensibly it concerns a 14-year old Catholic girl, Wynne (Agutter) growing up in this post-modern wasteland, who develops a crush on her much older adoptive brother (Marshall)- a crush which perversely deepens and grows into infatuation once she starts to believe he is the local sex killer. This is in itself an idea that makes you sit up and jolt, but as the narrative develops, it continues not necessarily along a linear path but in several confusing and fascinating directions: the family's history, (detailed effectively in chilling flashback during an improvised seance) is a chequered one, and has suffered at least one major relocation and upheaval in the last ten years. At the crux, however, it's the depiction of socialal changes that make I Start Counting so fascinating and elevate its language far beyond the confines of the standard horror film. The major subtext- that teenage girls were maturing more quickly than before, and developing full sexual and romantic appetites (even if in thought rather than deed) but were not possessed of enough discretion to make the right choices- was a step forward for a genre in which its young females had previously been portrayed as bimbo victims (Cover Girl Killer and The Night Caller spring to mind), but not one that all viewers would necessarily agree with. But most striking of all, and possibly the most enduring image which the viewer will take away with them, is of the masterful symbolism with which director Greene invests every shot. Every inch of the Kinch family's world- their house, their walls, their TV, Agutters underwear, bedroom furniture and toys, Sutcliffe's clothes, Marshalls van, the local Catholic church, their town centre, their record shop) - is painted a bright, scintillating white- a white which, by inference, is slowly becoming smudged and corrupted with the dirt of the outside world. White also symbolises, of course, purity and innocence (two qualities Catholic schoolgirls are supposed to hold dear), and it is into this world of innocence that the ever-present red bus (a symbol of violation and penetration), conducted by the lecherous yet similarly juvenile Simon Ward, makes regular journeys. The allegory is further expanded in one scene where Agutter believes she sees the Christ figure in church weeping blood: by the time we acknowledge it, its gone, but the seed has already been planted. Rarely in a genre production has the use of colour and background been so important or effective in creating a uniformity of mood. I Start Counting is as near-perfect an end to a decade as one could hope for, and exactly the kind of film people should be making now- which is, of course, exactly why they never will. A genre essential. by D.R.
其实并不如《异形》和《末路狂花》那么有力量，算是借古讽今的作品。朱迪·科默值得一个影后，这片子男主换几个人貌似也差不太多，但女主功力差一点点都不行。一个有意思的点：第三段标题出现后，“The Truth”一个词比其它几个词多停留了几秒钟才消失；结尾字幕也够讽刺：Jean几年后在另一场决斗中丧生。
老天是公平的。强奸的人表面忏悔，但过于精明死不承认。莽夫爵士为了脸面，以命相搏，最终还是死于鲁莽。夫人总认为自己是唯一的受害者，别人都不是真心对她，一切都是她的努力赢得了胜利。但是最后所有人都知道她被强奸时有快感她撒了谎，所有人甚至她自己看到自己的孩子就会想起那个瞬间。他们每个人都深信不疑的感觉是自己的努力在控制着局面，但没有一个视角能够称得上真实。唯有老天最公平每个人都受到了应有的惩罚。
所以最重要的是，女性要争夺叙事权。要不然记忆、经历和历史将由他们任意投射。
4.0。1.《角斗士》+《末路狂花》，无论是哪一种视角讲述还原故事，在罗生门的叙事陷阱里，女性自始至终都是受害者，为女性决斗不是为还以清白，而是维护男性尊严。2.马特达蒙+大本+司机，真出戏。
不负片名，决斗戏确实拍得好，“罗生门”叙事的变体，不同视角依次讲述没有形成谎言漩涡，反而在逐渐填补逼近真相，暧昧性只存在于各自回避掉的情节和极其微小的细节。到第三幕揭露性的女性羞辱连珠炮一样甩出来，语气急转为正确且坚定的性别表达，精心构建的戏剧力场瞬间崩塌，猝不及防啊。
以前“强暴不是对女人施加的罪行，而是侵害她男性监护人的财产。”真可怕啊
很当代了，而且和老雷以前拍的那些所谓的女权电影比起来说教意味实在太直白了。
自古两男一女走在一起从来只有一个“嬲”字，无论是民智未开的中世纪，还是可以火星漫步的现今，又或者AI VR横行的未来，有些事，从神造人构造那一刻开始，就注定很难得到公平对待，只可以说逐步优化不公的程度！
四幕剧结构很酷，忠君爱国到长袖善舞到女性意识到自由搏击，作为类型片爱好者，不得不承认我从PK中得到了最大的快感
妻子被强奸的意义只不过是属于自己的财产被侵占，如此荒谬的论点成了这部电影的核心。司机的角色还是有些站不住脚，第二章的独白不还说说自己犯了强奸罪么，他的回忆不该是两情相悦的么。
前两部分的视角展现 看似补全各自盲点和脑内优化 实则着墨过多于人 于镜头于景别完全是干瘪的议论文体裁范本一般脱水感 最后才切回 Marguerite 的自述里 力道存而滞后了些 Duel 戏一般般 RS 做这么个赔钱的项目点出这样的主题主旨 还是难得的
看前1/3的时候，还真是有点纳闷，觉得除了美术啊、演员啊、稳定的镜头啊之外， 没看到大师级的感觉。看到中间渐渐就来了感觉，也大体知道怎么玩了。看到最后真是有些震撼。确实从编剧到整个立意再到节奏上的大师级的控制力，确实是非常牛。这确实不是对以往经典电影套路的模仿，这个电影也是有很多特色及很牛的细节。看完觉得很爽，被一个好电影带动了。你能投入进去，你能被带着思考很多，然后也没有一个比较明确而幼稚的答案给你。我觉得至少我能打4星，冲动了一下就给了5星。
很契合今天Metoo的1300s法国历史剧。强奸案罗生门，分别从丈夫、强奸犯和受害女性三个视角，一次次把事件重讲，其中犯罪片段出现了两次，运动影像某种程度真是暴力。女性作为丈夫的财产存在的时代，故事里的不公和恶意比比皆是。尤其怀胎六月的Marguerite在庭上被一群老男人质问被强奸时是否感到愉悦的场面，简直恐怖得触目惊心，还有女性对女性的恶意。两个主要男性角色也很“反英雄”，义胆忠肝的莽夫和长袖善舞的小人。不像当年《角斗士》很多“道理”靠台词说出来，这里的台词留给观众自己琢磨。
选角和表演都够差的，仿佛在看他们四个玩古装剧本杀......
以为是罗生门，却又用字幕给你强调哪些是真相，显得少了点胆量，走的稳健路线。三个视角重复用的镜头太多了，有时候看的有点不耐烦，会短暂怀疑最后一个视角的必要性，当然最后揭示故事的主要意义是展现女性的视角，表现女性受的压迫和不公的，这就跟前面的结构有点拧巴。不过最后的决斗场景拍的太牛了，手心攥紧了看的，这才有"大导风范"。不过话说回来，这部分紧张感有多少是跟主旨的女性视角相关的呢？
古装片是Ridley擅长的领域，票房扑了有点可惜。主题很好，Matt Damon和Ben Affleck做这个电影是想表示他们跟当Weinstein马仔的过去一刀两断吗!Adam Driver居然是"帅气"的人设，我抄袭别人评价他那张脸的一句话，he looks like someone beat the shit out of Keanu Reeves.
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小变态太美了，马达扮相好凶好丑，司机很欲，大本一头黄发吊儿郎当满嘴fuck笑的牙龈都看到了是怎么回事阿
电影采用了特别的三段式：却是3种视角，细微的差别，截然不同的意义，从而突出那个属于女性的、受害者的真实版本，而不是那些为了权力和面子的伪君子的。历史是胜利者的书写，今天女性也获得了历史书写的权利，我们活在一个好的时代，这样的悲惨故事才得以不再一再的上演。
雷导还是功力稳健，《罗生门》的三幕结构，直到最后道破真相，把一个简单的角斗故事讲出新意。结尾字幕毫无疑问是点睛之笔：“她享受了30年的荣华富贵，始终不曾再婚”。
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